Europa nu poate relationa cu SUA si nici nu poate infrunta viata fara UK, spune Merkel – 29 mai 2017
Europe cannot rely on US and faces life without UK, says Merkel
German chancellor Angela Merkel has signalled that Europe can no longer count on the US as a reliable partner, reflecting a new transatlantic rift that has emerged after two days of international summits with President Donald Trump last week.
"The times in which we can fully count on others are somewhat over, as I have experienced in the past few days," Ms Merkel told a political rally inside a Munich beer tent on Sunday. "We Europeans must really take our destiny into our own hands."
Ms Merkel also told the EU to prepare for a future without the UK once Brexit was complete. "Of course we need to have friendly relations with the US and with the UK, and with other neighbours, including Russia," Ms Merkel said. But she added, "we have to fight for our own future ourselves".
The German chancellor was speaking a day after leaders from the G7 nations clashed at a summit in Sicily. Donald Trump, on his first visit to Europe as US president, refused to say whether he would endorse the Paris climate accords, which Barack Obama committed the US to adopt in 2015.
The Paris agreement came into force in November but Mr Trump campaigned for the White House saying he would pull out of the deal.
Ms Merkel had called the discussions "very unsatisfying", adding there was "no indication that the US will stay in the Paris agreement". Mr Trump wrote on Twitter that he intended to decide on the Paris accord next week.
During the trip to Europe, Mr Trump also took aim at Germany for its trade surplus with the US, prompting Ms Merkel to reject the criticism as "inappropriate".
The US president also clashed with European heads of state earlier in the week at a Nato summit in Brussels, where he berated them for not meeting a target to spend 2 per cent of gross domestic product on defence.
Mr Trump, who called Nato "obsolete" in last year's presidential campaign, failed to endorse the security alliance's Article 5 commitment to mutual defence, even when standing in front of a new monument at Nato's Brussels headquarters in honour of mutual defence.
The monument commemorated the 9/11 attack in 2001, when all members of the Nato alliance came to the support of the US in its fight against terrorism — the only time Article 5 has been invoked.
However Lt Gen HR McMaster, US national security adviser, told the Financial Times in Taormina that "it's a matter of fact the United States stands firmly behind our Article 5 commitment."
Gen McMaster called it "extraordinary" to expect that Mr Trump should have to make such a commitment, given that the US was a signatory to Nato's founding treaty in 1949. He said Mr Trump wanted other Nato countries to step up their defence spending, but added: "Everything he does is about strengthening the alliance."
The comments from Ms Merkel align with a growing sense within the German leadership that the EU must be more strongly integrated. Wolfgang Schäuble, Germany's finance minister, recently told the FT that Germany's priority must be "to keep the rest of Europe — without the UK — as close together as possible".
Ms Merkel, who heads the centre-right Christian Democratic Union, is campaigning for a fourth term in an election in September. The chancellor was speaking at a rally for the CDU's Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union, whose members have been critical of her liberal approach to accepting refugees.
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Particip la Malta la o reuniune parlamentara a Comisiilor de Afaceri Europene ; subiectele la zi legate de migratie, antiterorism, Brexit, relatiile regionale ....
Update - nu cititi doar titlul de la Stiripesurse- titlurile sunt ca sa atraga atentia ![https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/fee/2/16/1f601.png]()
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😁/ cititi continutul stirii care este foarte bun si corect :
http://www.stiripesurse.ro/victor-ponta-atac-la-grindeanu-i…
Regiunea noastra, Europa, Lumea se schimba in aceste zile sub ochii nostri- iar noi anchetam Arhiva SIPA si Alegerile din 2009![https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/fe9/2/16/1f640.png]()
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🙀 - si acestea sunt lucruri foarte importante dar asa cum au inceput risca sa fie doar o "abureala" ( sper sa ma insel eu)!
Nu pot sa imi scot din minte editorialul Leliei Munteanu si va rog sa il cititi :
http://m.gandul.info/…/presedintele-iohannis-absent-la-summ…
- din pacate Romania nu a fost acum doua saptamani la Summitul de la Beijing privind "Noul Drum al Matasii" - nu ne intereseaza imvestitiile chineze de 100 miliarde de dolari
- in urma cu o saptamana a fost la Istanbul Summitul "Organizatiei pentru cooperare la Marea Neagra" ; dl Iohannis nu a participat iar Premierul Grindeanu si-a anulat participarea in ultimul moment din motive necunoscute / nu ne mai intereseaza nici Marea Neagra
- la Summitul NATO ceea ce spune Lelia Munteanu este adevarat ; daca nu ar fi de plans ar fi de ras
- pozitia noastra "deontolgica" fata de Turcia devine ridicola dupa intalnirea oficiala dintre Erdogan si Trump urmata de intalnirea oficiala dintre Erdogan Tusk si Juncker / pozitiile exprimate de Dl Iohannis sunt chiar aiuritoare si naucitoare :
http://www.romaniajournal.ro/president-iohannis-russia-tur…/
- domnul Macron tocmai il primeste azi la Paris pe Vladimir Putin - uf, ce l-ar mai certa "Propaganda" noastra daca ar avea voie ![https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/fee/2/16/1f601.png]()
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https://www.dcnews.ro/…/intalnire-emmanuel-macron-vladimir-…
- doamna Merkel tocmai a anuntat oficial ( ceea ce se stia de mult) faptul ca Europa si SUA merg pe drumuri diferite / si noi Romania ( copilul neajutorat ) cu cine ramanem in caz de divort?
Gata cu subiectele astea complicate si neinteresante - aduc "Ghinion"
Doina Nicolescu Conform constitutiei presedintele nu are prea multe sarcini, dar doua dintre ele sunt importante: moderator in Romania siraspunderea de politica externa. Cum a rezolvat prima sarcina s-a vazut cu ocazia protestelor din P-ta Victoriel. Cum rezolva a 2 -a sarcina reiese din aceasta postare. Se pare ca am inceput incet, incet sa disparem...
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Angela Merkel, Donald Trump and the end of the west
The German leader's speech was a blunder and risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy
Gideon Rachman
Donald Trump's first visit to Europe was awkward. Its aftermath has been explosive. Speaking at an election rally in Munich, shortly after the US president had returned to Washington, Angela Merkel came close to announcing the death of the western alliance.
The German chancellor warned that: "The times in which we can fully count on others are somewhat over, as I have experienced in the past few days. We Europeans must really take our destiny in our own hands. Of course we need to have friendly relations with the US and with the UK and with other neighbours, including Russia. But we have to fight for our own future ourselves."
Ms Merkel's remarks swiftly made headlines. Richard Haass, who as president of the Council on Foreign Relations is the doyen of the US foreign-policy establishment, tweeted: "Merkel saying Europe cannot rely on others & needs to take matters into its own hands is a watershed — & what US has sought to avoid since WW2."
It is easy and appropriate to blame President Trump for this state of affairs. But despite her cautious phrasing, Ms Merkel has also behaved irresponsibly — making a statement that threatens to widen a dangerous rift in the Atlantic alliance into a permanent breach.
The case against Mr Trump is easiest to make. His performance in Europe was disastrous. In a speech to Nato, the US president failed to reaffirm Article 5, the alliance's mutual defence clause.
This was not an accidental oversight and sent a clear message that America's commitment to the defence of Europe can no longer be taken for granted. That, in turn, risks encouraging Russia to test Nato's defences.
At a G7 summit, Mr Trump stood alone in his failure to endorse the Paris climate accord. And he was also widely quoted as calling Germany "bad, very bad" for the sin of selling too many cars in the US.
Faced with all this, and with Brexit Britain, Ms Merkel may feel that she is merely stating the obvious in suggesting that Germany can no longer count on its American and British allies. Nonetheless, her speech was a blunder for at least five reasons.
First, it is a mistake to allow four months of the Trump presidency to throw into doubt a Transatlantic alliance that has kept the peace in Europe for 70 years. It may come to that. But it is also possible that Mr Trump is an aberration and will soon be out of office.
Second, the US president actually had a valid point to make about the failure of most European countries to meet Nato targets on military expenditure. Mr Trump's behaviour in Europe was crass. But his argument that it is unsustainable for the US to account for almost 75 per cent of Nato defence spending is correct — and was also made by Robert Gates, defence secretary for President Obama. Given that Germany has been freeriding on American military spending, it is a little cheeky to blame the US for being an unreliable ally.
Third, by implying that the western alliance is now coming apart, Ms Merkel has compounded the error that Mr Trump made when he failed to endorse Article 5.
Both events will have encouraged the Russian government in its hope of breaking up the western alliance. That, in turn, makes Europe's security situation more dangerous.
Fourth, Ms Merkel was unwise and unfair to bracket the UK with Trump's America. In the climate change discussions, Britain sided with the EU — not the US. Similarly, the government of Theresa May has been at pains to stress Britain's commitment to Nato.
However, if Ms Merkel's government pursues the Brexit negotiations in the current confrontational spirit — demanding that the UK commit to vast upfront payments, before even discussing a trade deal — she risks creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and a lasting antagonism between Britain and the EU.
It is hard to see how the UK can be expected to see the same countries as adversaries in the Brexit negotiations and allies in the Nato context. So a really hard Brexit could indeed raise questions about Britain's commitment to Nato — particularly if the US is also pulling back from the western alliance.
The final flaw in Ms Merkel's approach is that it displayed an uncharacteristic deafness to the echoes of history. One of the truly impressive things about modern Germany is that, more than any other country I can think of, it has thought hard about the lessons of history, and learnt them with thoroughness and humility. So it is baffling that a German leader could stand in a beer-tent in Bavaria and announce a separation from Britain and the US while bracketing those two countries with Russia. The historical resonances should be chilling.
None of this is meant to suggest that Ms Merkel is on the same moral and political level as Mr Trump. The US president has repeatedly displayed contempt for core western values — from freedom of the press to the prohibition on torture and the support of democracies around the world.
As a result, some have even proclaimed that the German chancellor is now the true leader of the western world. That title was bestowed prematurely. The sad reality is that Ms Merkel seems to have little interest in fighting to save the western alliance.
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Comentariatul FT
So many questions from Merkels speech. We knew from previous meetings that she finds the British PM a light weight but has her relationship with May deteriorated into outright acrimony ? Can we take her comments to imply a super hard position on Brexit ? By doubting Washington and Londons reliability and good faith has Germany renounced 2 out 3 parts of NATO's nuclear umbrella ? Is she saying Germany feels comfortable that a French nuclear deterrent would be there for them in extremis ? Has Macron changed the French retaliatory doctrine from defence of la patrie to defence of the EU ? If so is Vilnius the trip wire or is it Warsaw - or is it German territory ? All these questions were going to be asked at some stage and it will be interesting to see whether geopolitical uncertainty has any bearing on market euphoria or VIX.
Thumbscrew
I am usually persuaded by GR's arguments. Not this time. Someone needed to say it and that someone was and is best to have been Merkel. The US and Trump will take note. He may not like her but he cannot fail to respect her. Trump is either willingly or unwittingly the tool of the Kremlin. He has in a few months undone decades of hard work. May discredited herself when she ran with unseemly haste to be Trump's first lapdog and offered him an unwarranted and unprecedented State visit in his first year. The US and UK have broken ranks. This is the moment for the EU 26 to stand up and be counted. The Far Right have been seen off in the Netherlands and France. The EU economy is growing again. Putin too will take note. There will be no loosening of EU Sanctions.
Carlo Langotti
Mr. Rachman I do share your broader concern and worry but to place the blame squarely on Mrs. Merkel is not correct nor is it fair. Brexit and Trump are not Mrs. Merkel's doing - rather they are self inflicted wounds. Mrs. Merkel spoke the truth - there is great and profound need for European Unity. It is the US and UK that made the decision to abandon Europe, not the other way around.
Dr Half-track
A thoughtful, timely piece. on a subject of great importance.
But, Mr Rachman, just in case you hadn't noticed, the separation of Europe and Britain has already been announced, and the announcement was not made by Mrs Merkel. Any antagonism between Britain and the EU is likewise, solely a result of Britain's childish Brexit tantrum.
If the German Chancellor is to double defence spending, she needs a story better than "Trump told us to" to convince her profoundly peace-loving voters, and taxpayers, not to mention France and Poland, and for her to ignore political and military realities would be a dereliction of duty.
It now seems that opinion in EU capitals is finally beginning to accept that the illogical, unbelievable, self-harm of Brexit is going to happen. Ironically, this is just when British politicians are beginning to suspect that the Brexit larder might be bare.
Trump isn't our main problem, much less Germany. May, the Conservative Party, and the entire British political leadership are. Or more precisely, the lack of credible British leadership.
This is not a time for what looks like knee-jerk anti-Germanism.
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The real greybeard
While I share Rachmann's regrets, Ms Merkel is now moving on from the surprises sprung by Germany's two closest military allies and protectors. First the UK failed to show up for the crisis in Ukraine and now threatens EU allies with a withdrawal of security cooperation in Brexit. Trump is not alone in barfing about Nato becoming a conditional commitment, over half the Republican party thinks the same.
Like it or not, UK and US have become unreliable and untrustworthy military allies. Ms Merkel is looking facts straight on - she did not create the situation. Nor can the problem be fixed simply by a change at the top, or a change of government even. Once trust is lost it cannot be regained easily.
Bryan
I saw Brian Cox in Dublin last week. He pointed out how precious our planet is - what a high duty of care we have and therefore how baffling it is to elect a man like Donald Trump to be leader of the free world - and - Cox has a point.
Climate change, overpopulation, deforestation, war, over-exploitation of the environment, unrestrained consumerism stripping the assets of the world - "Trump digs coal". If ever there were a case for putting a fundamentally stupid species out of its misery based on its inability not to defecate where it eats - it's Trump.
Who would seriously believe Trump would even economically sanction Russia - if it sent its tanks into Kiev, never mind go to war to protect a NATO partner. Russian tanks in Vilnius ?
As to the UK.
The UK exiting the EU - repudiating the ECJ, the single market, the EUCU - does make it an unreliable partner. Brexit upends the Good-Friday agreement - lights a fuse in Northern Ireland in effect. As an Irish citizen - someone who voted to modify the constitution of my country - the ROI - based on the Good-Friday-Agreement - I can say - I see - exactly where Merkel is coming from. What we appear to have is British unilateralism - sugar coated in guff about "no return of a hard border" . Oh really - so where will the customs posts be when the UK exists the EUCU - in Belfast port ? Have the Tories run that one past the DUP and Ulster-Unionists ?
The UK exiting the EU at this stage - with its foreign secretary comparing key European leaders to Nazis - is completely beyond the pale. Better never to have joined than to have
1. Ridiculed the project
2. Tried to get in twice
3. Succeeded in getting in only to
4. Harumph off in a huff 45 years later - causing damage both to itself and the institution it lobbied to join.
I mean seriously - you don't feel important enough in the EU - so you want to throw the toys out of the pram and storm off.
A reliable partner means someone who you can be reasonably sure to behave in a way that's "reliable" (unlike the US commitment to NATO) and credible (unlike the UKs commitment to being a partner of the EU - while having an interest in the whole thing collapsing and getting to say "I told you so").
On NI - I realise it's incompetence rather than malice but still.... the result is roughly the same anyway. You cannot rely on an incompetent counter-party.
Sorry.
boris888
The USA AND THE UK have brought about the downfall of the west. Chronic failure in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya have flooded Europe with refugees a fate these two have avoided by virtue of their island status. The great financial crisis was made by the genius bankers and politicians in the USA & UK adding huge debts to those already incurred in financing these failed wars. It is time Europe shed these two countries who stil believe they are the only repository of wisdom in this world and set out onto own. Their repositories are bankrupt and it all started well before Trump.
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