Stadiul actual al TTIP – 3 mai 2016
Draghi Puterity
TTIP - unde s-a ajuns pana in acest moment, dupa 13 runde de convorbiri secrete
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Un grafic ce face mai mult decat limita de cuvinte pe care o trece ca un comentariu. Multumesc!
Draghi Puterity wink emoticon
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Nu-i nimeni fraier. Initiatorii Tratatului fie adopta o chestie redusa, fie au nevoie de un stimulent.
Dinica Roman https://actions.sumofus.org/a/ttip-stoppen...
Enthüllt: Geheime TTIP-Papiere bestätigen schlimmste Befürchtungen
Gemeinsam können wir das gefährliche Handelsabkommen stoppen!
Dinica Roman http://www.ttip-leaks.org/
Read the secret #TTIP papers here
Greenpeace Netherlands has released secret EU-US #TTIP negotiations. You should have…
TTIP-LEAKS.ORG|BY GREENPEACE NEDERLAND
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Smaranda Dobrescu "Today's leak of the TTIP text leaves the leaders of the European Union with a choice. Either they abandon the TTIP negotiations immediately or they risk seeing the entire European project come crashing down about their ears. They have until 23rd June to decide."
http://www.independent.co.uk/.../ttip-leaks-shocking-what...
After leaks, this could really be the end for TTIP
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Chiar si aceste *leaks* fac parte din negociere, Smaranda. Si toate taberele o stiu. Deci se negociaza!
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Iata cum curvele de serviciu din academie indoaie faptele
Michael J. Hicks, director of the Center for Business and Economic Research at Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana:
"Factory jobs have declined, he added, but not because of trade deals with other countries as Mr. Trump and Mr. Sanders assert, but because Indiana factories are increasingly efficient and fewer workers are needed.
"'Manufacturing employment peaked in 1973,' he said, adding that since then the productivity of Indiana factory workers has climbed 250 percent. 'We need far fewer workers, and a very different type of worker, too.'"
Pentru a aduga insulta la rana, tovaraselul asta pare ca-i pe shatul de plata al celor pe care-i imbrobodeste.
http://cepr.net/.../why-does-the-nyt-feel-the-need-to...
Adrian H. Todea Prospectiv A-z , productivitatea a crescut dar nu cu un procentaj atat de ridicat. O cifra mai realista este 75-100%. Binenteles ca "trade deals" afecteza angajarea fortei de munca locale. Aici acest Michael J. Hicks minte ca un porc. Cozile de topor academice.
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Ce s-a intamplat in 1973 n-are legatura cu productivitatea cat cu costurile americane de razboi de pana atunci...
Mihai Ion Turcu Cum explicam faptul ca "guvernul european" (Comisia) negociaza in detrimentul cetatenilor UE ?
Preda Mihailescu Santaj?
Preda Mihailescu In plus in Germania se aud tot mai multe voci care vorbesc de o presiune Americana: Daca nu semnati TTIP procesul VW va fi de neplatit. Seful legal al procedurii a venit in Germania, si a amenintat ca isi doreste desigur despagubiri si pentru Germani, nu numai pentru Americani ...
Adrian H. Todea Aici ar fi interesant de discutat de "pros" and "cons" privind globalizarea !!
Draghi Puterity Eu cred ca globalizarea a devenit inevitabila, datorita progresului omenirii, in special cel tehnologic. Depinde insa cum o facem, in folosul unor plutocrati sau oligarhi, sau in folosul majoritatii. Nu cred ca deoarece forma de acum a globalizarii pare sa ii avantajeze doar pe cei dintai, putem spune ca globalizarea in sine e ceva de nedorit. Trebuie "doar" sa o facem cum trebuie.
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Un comentariu cu care sunt de acord, mai ales in privinta a ceea ce/cum ar trebui sa facem, doar ca niste termeni ar putea fi folositi un pic mai bine. In capul listei as aseza notiunea de progres.
Mihai Ion Turcu Globalizarea este un proiect nu este o evolutie "naturala" . O lume globalizata, conduse de un guvern "global" poate propune doar solutii "globale" , in abstract. problemele lumii sunt concrete si locale, comporta abordari si solutii diverse, de la caz la caz . Sinerigiile si emergentele rezulta nu se impun.
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Domnule Turcu, imi permit un comentariu caruia i-ar sta mai bine pe privat daca va stanjeneste prin natura sa. De cand va stiti asa de sceptic/realist, dintotdeauna sau este rezultatul invatari de minte in ultimii 26 de ani?
Va intreb caci observ cum vecini post-socialisti ai Romaniei au manifestat o doza sanatoasa de scepticism/realism inca dela inceput in relatiile lor cu globalizarea/super-sistemul in timp ce multi la Bucuresti par a fi vanat pasari de pe gard...
Mihai Ion Turcu Dintotdeauna, fiind astfel am invedere dificultatile posibile pentru care pregatesc contramasuri fara sa ma retrag.
Adrian H. Todea Un punct de vedere globalist poate fi benefic atunci cand apar confictele, implicandu-se in aplanarea lor prin negocieri, de ex... Din pacate nu prea am vazut conflicte aplanate dimpotriva au fost artificial intretinute...ani de zile.
Mihai Ion Turcu negocierile survin atuncea cand negociatorii sunt de forta egala. Contrar cel mai puternic se impune prin forta sau doar prin amenintare cu forta.
Adrian H. Todea Atunci, devine absolut normala contraponderea data de Rusia si China...
Mihai Ion Turcu Incepand cu iluminismul propunem idei sublime. Sunt repere morale. Practica politica (dobandirea si folosirea puterii) devine morala numai in conditii de echilibru de forte.
Doina Nicolescu Aplanare! Si bietii fabricanti de arme raman fara profit.
Smaranda Dobrescu Dupa ceva timp, stanga europeana a tras niste concluzii asupra principalelor hibe ale capitolelor negociate;
"Long-standing environmental protections appear to be dropped. None of the documents received by Greenpeace refers to the General Exceptions, a 70-year-old rule enshrined in the GATT agreement of the World Trade Organization (WTO) that allows nations to regulate trade 'to protect human, animal and plant life or health' or for 'the conservation of exhaustible natural resources'. The omission of this regulation suggests both sides are creating a regime that places profit ahead of human, animal and plant life and health.
Climate protection will be harder under TTIP. There is no reference in the texts to the need to keep global temperature increase under 1.5 degrees, as stressed in the Paris climate agreement. Even worse, the scope for mitigation measures is limited by provisions of the chapters on 'Regulatory cooperation' or 'Market access for industrial goods'. As an example, these proposals would rule out regulating the import of CO2-intensive fuels such as oil from tar sands.
The end of the precautionary principle. The precautionary principle, enshrined in the EU Treaty, is not mentioned in the chapter on 'Regulatory cooperation', nor in any other of the obtained 12 chapters. On the other hand, the US demand for a 'risk-based' approach that aims to manage hazardous substances rather than avoid them, finds its way into various chapters. This approach undermines the ability of regulators to take preventive measures, for example regarding controversial substances like hormone disrupting chemicals.
Opening the door for corporate takeover. While the proposals threaten environmental and consumer protection, big business gets what it wants. Opportunities to participate in decision-making are granted to corporations to intervene at the earliest stages of the decision-making process. While civil society has had little access to the negotiations, there are many instances where the papers show that industry has been granted a privileged voice in important decisions. The leaked documents indicate that the EU has not been open about the high degree of industry influence. The EU's recent public report has only one minor mention of industry input, whereas the leaked documents repeatedly talk about the need for further consultations with industry and explicitly mention how industry input has been collected. Yet, Cecilia Malmström, the European Commissioner for Trade, had the nerve to respond to the leak by stating that 'the EU industry does not have greater access to EU negotiating positions than other stakeholders. We take into account submissions by industry, but exactly the same applies to submissions by trade unions, consumer groups or health or environmental organisations – all of which are represented in the advisory group that regularly meets our negotiating team' (my emphasis). This is the same person that stated, when asked how she could continue her persistent promotion of the TTIP in the face of such massive public opposition, replied: 'I do not take my mandate from the European people'."
https://www.socialeurope.eu/2016/05/ttip-right-along/
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'I do not take my mandate from the European people'. Institutia care permite asa ceva n-are niciun drept sa existe!
In plus, cred ca-i necesar ca discursul sa fie recentrat dela 'big business' la *clasa/elita care gestioneaza big business*. Altfel ne ratacim in ceatza conceptuala.
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Cecilia Malmström, cea care a spus 'I do not take my mandate from the European people,' e din Suedia, tzara model pentru femeile emancipate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilia_Malmstr%C3%B6m
Cecilia Malmström - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mihai Ion Turcu Asa si arata...
Draghi Puterity http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-ttip-necessary.../5524034
Obama: TTIP Necessary So As to Protect Megabanks From Prosecution
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Foarte interesant articolul, desi ar putea fi ajutat de niscaiva precizie si proiectie. Cred ca aceste declaratii sunt TACTICI punctuale pentru a permite avansul Tratatului, nu motivul principal cum suna titlul.
Problema este atinsa intr-adevar atunci cand se spune ca bancile si agentiile de rating ar fi vulnerabilizate de necunoastere in jurisdictiile mici ('expertise in securities fraud prosecutions'). Raportat la context romanesc, asta inseamna ca legea darii in plata (Gheorghe Piperea) n-ar mai putea fi obiectul instantelor romanesti, s-ar muta totul in 'nori'. Asta chiar daca bancile respective au comis ilegalitatea impotriva unui public 'iliterat' financiar folosindu-se de cunoasterea limitata a finantelor si legilor de catre cei multi.
Americanii sunt in general fair, dar asta nu inseamna ca recipientii solutiilor americane nu trebuie sa-si negocieze cu TOATA intensitatea interesele Si asta o fac americanii istoric.
Mihai Ion Turcu Niste explicatii de la competent catre profan in materie bancara s-ar cere. !!
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Domnule Turcu, explicatiile sunt necesare la articolului repostat de dl. Draghi Puterity sau in general in relatia banci-consumatori?
Daca-i vorba de relatia banci-consumatori, NICIODATA nu va fi destul caci bancile dereglementate si-au luat libertatea de a 'inova'. Asta inseamna ca orice educatie cu rolul de a imuniza consumatorul nu va da roade in fatza noilor tehnici/tactici ale bancilor de a extrage profituri nemeritate dela cei multi.
Discutia aici in State a continut recomandari de genul: Sa refacem sistemul bancar plictistor! Adica asa cum a fost dupa ce legislatia a separat specula de depozite dupa Marea Depresie din secolul trecut. Banca cu care avea de-a face tot omul era reglementata ca o regie de gaz/electricitate. Incepand cu Clinton, legile au fost modificate pentru a permite 'inovatia'. Observam ce s-a intamplat: bancile au ajuns sa constituie un procent mult mai mare din GDPul unei tari, am avut nenumarate crize din ce in ce mai mari, productia de bunuri s-a mutat catre alte zari, oamenii traiesc in mizerie...
In Romania ar trebui incurajat sectorul bancar propriu si RENEGOCIATE conditiile in care premiantii tzarii tot accepta Consensul Washington de 26 de ani.
Draghi Puterity For the record, o modificare similara a legislatiei bancare a avut loc si in Germania la putin timp dupa aceea, in timpul legislaturii lui cancelarului "social-democrat" Gerhard Schröder.
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Cum altfel? Doar 'inovatia' financiar bancara este ciuma timpului nostru.
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Daca Csilla Lakatos dela Washington imi spune ca TTIP va fi bun pentru Romania, nimic nu mai conteaza!
"Centrul Român de Politici Europene (CRPE) a elaborat în mai 2015 un raport „Impactul economic al ParteneriatuluiTransatlantic pentru Comerț și Investiții (TTIP) asupra României" (http://www.crpe.ro/.../2015/05/CRPE-Policy-Memo-63-Final.pdf), probabil la comanda guvernului României; autorii raportului (22 pagini) sunt Lucian Cernat (Economist-Șef, Directoratul General pentru politici comerciale, Comisia Europeană, Bruxelles) şi Csilla Lakatos (Economist, Banca Mondială, Washington); raportul apreciază ca TTIP va avantaja România."
http://www.cotidianul.ro/ttip-leaks-280797/
Draghi Puterity Noam Chomsky despre TTIP & Co
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153750382481939/
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"Highly protectionist" and "for the benefit of private powers".
America's foremost intellectual, Noam Chomsky, on why the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) is not a free trade agreement.
Smaranda Dobrescu Adica TTIP-ul cu ale lui capitole deja negociate puse la dispozitie de catre Greenpeace Olanda, este facut exact pe calapodul tratatului pacific TTP?. Oare Australia si Noua Zeelanda il agreaza in forma actuala?
Draghi Puterity Nu stiu, insa uite peste ce stire am dat in Australia:
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2016/s4462740.htm
Govt's company tax cut plans to deliver tax bonus to US Treasury: research
A study has found planned company tax cuts proposed by the Turnbull Government would deliver a multi-billion-dollar tax bonus to the US Treasury. The research finds the planned cut would transfer more than $11 billion in revenue from Australian to US coffers.<BR>
Smaranda Dobrescu Nu par australienii dornici sa faca asemenea daruri..
Draghi Puterity Poate ii obliga TPP-ul...
Preda Mihailescu Video Unavailable! Am ajuns acolo!
Dinica Roman European sponsors of U.S.-style neoliberalism pose a threat of transforming European politics, and with it the structure of economies and society. Enormous sums of money are being spent on public relations, and to support politicians willing to shepherd corporate monopoly power against that of democratic government and voters. The most serious threat to European health care and care for the aging population in general is pressure from U.S. firms and diplomats to ram through the TTIP.
It is much more than a free trade agreement. Its "investor dispute" mechanism threatens to disenfranchise governments. The intent is to block them from protecting Europe's economy, population and basic social philosophy that has developed over the past century of social democracy.
That is why so many of us in the United States also are fighting against this agreement. It has been a major issue in this year's presidential campaign. Republican nominee Donald Trump has affirmed that the public option is by far the most economic. And Democratic contender Bernie Sanders has opposed Hillary Clinton's support for her patrons on Wall Street and in the pharmaceutical monopolies. I hope that a similar fight will be waged in Europe.
http://www.counterpunch.org/.../the-dangers-of-free.../
Smaranda Dobrescu It`s enough awful!!
Totusi, nu ar trebui avocatii si unii politicieni sa-si faca atatea scrupule fata de contribuabilii la sanatate si pensii fata de care societatea are datorii, caci tot elitele au in mana si problema infloritoare Monsanto, si importurile de plastic chinezesc cu eticheta de hrana, problemele de mediu,stress cauzat de somaj si saracie, etc. Toate lucreaza in aceeasi directie, a disparitiei naturale din sistem si a facilitarii sarcinilor sistemelor de asigurari. Cinic, dar corect!
Dinica Roman Un italian
TTIP... La fine delle varietà agroalimentari italiane.
Così importeremo merda da altri Stati solo perché chi ci governa non ha le palle di difendere le nostre tradizioni enogastronomiche. Io voglio mangiare italiano. Io voglio mangiare il salame nostrano. Io voglio mangiare il formaggio del casaro sotto casa. Voglio bere il latte delle mucche italiane...
E non dover importare latte in polvere dalla Germania da reidratare, formaggi fatti di plastica, insaccati industriali...
In Italia abbiamo due cose: il turismo grazie alle bellezze di questo Paese e l'enogastronomia che tutti ci invidiano.
Allora vogliamo distruggere proprio tutto per uniformarci e mangiare MacDonalds o Burger King...???
Meditate gente, dove Renzino & soci ci vogliono portare...
Già "il mortadella" ha svenduto la Lira...
Ora basta...!!!😤
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